Muslim radio host says gay people have a right to be angry at Islam

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  1. xbettel

    July 19, 2017 at 8:32 am

    > Muslim radio host Maajid Nawaz has called on the Muslim community to understand why people in the LGBT+ community are angry at Islam.

    > In a heated segment of his show, he listed the ten countries that still punish homosexuality with death, pointing out that they “are all, without exception, Muslim majority countries.”

    > “These guys marching at Pride have every right to be angry because they would be killed in these countries,” he said.
    Nawaz went on to list names of countries, including Yemen, Saudi Arabia and Afghanistan, all placed where LGBT people face the death penalty because of their sexuality.

    > He said he believed Islam deserved CEMB’s anger when so many Muslim countries persecute gay people.

    > “These people marching at Pride have every right to be angry because people like me, Muslims, are killing them simply for being who they are.

    > “That’s done in the name of my religion, so don’t try and tell me that our religion doesn’t have a history of homophobia,” he added.
    His rant on Saturday’s LBC show was prompted by East London Mosque’s demand for an apology from Council of Ex-Muslims of Britain (CEMB) and the organisers of London Pride.

    > They’d taken offence at CEMB’s “Allah is gay” placards, calling them Islamophobic.

    > Nawaz said Muslims needed to understand the difference between Islamophobia and satire.

    > “People have every right to criticise the religion of Islam itself.” he said.

    > He compared the signs to the Monty Python film Life of Brian or the musical Book of Mormon, and said that the left not only didn’t care about, but encouraged satire and criticism of Christianity.

    > Nawaz went on a separate rant about intersectionality in faith and sexuality earlier this week after a newly wed Muslim gay man received a torrent of online vile abuse.

    > Jahed Choudhury, 24, and Sean Rogan, 19, tied the knot last week in a ceremony in the West Midlands.

    > The pair donned Islamic garb for the marriage ceremony, which was carried out in Walsall registry office.

    > However, the happy couple have since been targetted with hundreds of messages of abuse by online trolls, some from fellow Muslims.

    > Nawaz hit out at a caller who complained about the wedding and said that you cannot be both gay and Muslim.

    > He said: “You’re either a vegetarian or you’re not. I don’t describe myself as practising or devout, but you do. Who are you to declare Jahed Choudhury suddenly a non-Muslim because he does something you do not approve of?”

    > The caller tries to justify himself even further by claiming that the Quran states that you cannoy be both gay and Muslim, a statement that is disregarded by Nawaz.

    > Nawaz retorts: “The Quran says. Where does it say that?”

    > “You’re on national radio, you just told the whole world that the Quran says if you’re gay you’re not Muslim but you don’t think that creates Islamaphobia? Anti-Muslim bigotry? because people think Muslims are illiberal and bigoted.”

  2. HandymanBrandon

    July 19, 2017 at 8:32 am

    If only muslims stopped at being homophobic. We haven’t even got to their treatment of women.

  3. rstoplabe14

    July 19, 2017 at 8:32 am

    He’s right. If they as a group stop being so intolerant I wouldn’t have a problem with them. I have a Muslim co-worker that sits close to my desk. A co-worker who I’m out to once warned me that the Muslim co-worker had mentioned that he thought that I was gay. He went on to say that the tone of the conversation was extremely negative. I told him that I understood his negativity as it is a product of his environment.

    Once their environment changes and attitudes change I will reciprocate.

    Edit: a word.

  4. ubergeek77

    July 19, 2017 at 8:32 am

    On second thought, let’s not go to the comments. ‘Tis a silly place.

  5. PhillyTrapJesus

    July 19, 2017 at 8:32 am

    I wanna tell my buddy from Sudan I work with that our forward on our team is my fiancé but he goes from literally nicest guy ever zero to 100 real quick whenever gay ish is brought up

  6. Based_Gay_Pede

    July 19, 2017 at 8:32 am

    Well no duh. It’s probably the most anti gay religion today.

  7. Rindan

    July 19, 2017 at 8:32 am

    Eh. I think I’ll just judge folks as individuals.

    This same sort of mentality would leave me angry at Christianity, and yet, I know of awesome and accepting Christians and Christian churches. This same mentality would leave me hating people in States in this very Union. Do I need to be angry at all of Texas because it still has anti-sodomy laws on the books, or hate all North Carolina folks because of their bathroom bill?

    Don’t get me wrong, much of the Islamic world is a pile of bigoted garbage. Saudi Arabia can go fuck itself and the only thing we should be sending them are condoms and porn. I am just not willing to declare everyone person escaping that hell also garbage.

  8. tinysideburns

    July 19, 2017 at 8:32 am

    Pretty much. I don’t have anything against Muslim individuals. I respect them and their right to practice their faith like I would anyone else. I might have some real ideological qualms with certain tenants of their faith, but I won’t treat them any differently lest I become the bigot. But if someone treats me differently because of my sexual orientation, they can go right on off and fuck themselves. And that goes for anyone of any faith. Acceptance and tolerance is a two way street. I go on a case by case basis.

  9. Bullstang

    July 19, 2017 at 8:32 am

    I think there’s a huge disconnect here in America when you criticize Muslims. Because we have somewhere like 3 million Muslims who are mostly peaceful, and do not harbor these extreme views that these Muslim majority countries abroad share, American liberals are so quick to call names and place the islamaphobic label on anyone here who calls out Islam’s ideas. My point is that you can’t really voice your anger here, even if this radio host thinks you have a right to – the liberal left is in its own way sometimes and instead of standing up for the women and gays in these places abroad, they’d rather call names and shut down the conversation here.

  10. rahbicraft

    July 19, 2017 at 8:32 am

    We do have every right to be angry at Islam, but not just Islam, all Abrahamic religions. Islam is always the most targeted because of the death penalty in Muslim majority countries. In order to have change within their religion, we must get the majority of Muslims in our countries to accept LGBT.

    Secularism is the only way to promote that acceptance.

  11. BigotedCaveman

    July 19, 2017 at 8:32 am

    No shit.

  12. Solitak

    July 19, 2017 at 8:32 am

    If Muslims started to stop giving a fuck about the LGBT community, they would notice that nothing would really change. They would still do Ramadan and their festivals. They would still pray towards Mecca ever day.

    Too bad it’s going to take centuries before they start to realize this.

  13. mweagIe

    July 19, 2017 at 8:32 am

    But then again, do you “need” a right to be angry at something?

  14. Electricgreeneyes

    July 19, 2017 at 8:32 am

    Every religion has its homophobes.

    Homophobic Muslims are just like homophobic evangelicals. They’re trash either way. Doesn’t make someone Islamophobic for calling a spade a spade.

  15. iongantas

    July 19, 2017 at 8:32 am

    Gay people don’t have the right to be angry at islam, they have the right to be fucking homicidal.

  16. scuddybearpup

    July 19, 2017 at 8:32 am

    Muslims are great. I think people are angry with religion. We have a right to be angry about oppressive systems and stuff. I hope our Muslim siblings sisters and brothers, gay and straight, might work with us for this. I understand that in many interprettions this could not happen.

    I hope we can be savvy to navigate this. I don’t see why there has to be a islamophobia v homophobia tension set up. It seems to distract from the real oppressiveness gay Muslims and gay people experience and from the real islamophobia there is.

    I feel like the tone of many of the comments is off. Like I’m angry that in Islam gay people get killed. As someone who lives in the US where I have to tell my friends who where a headscarf get harassed sometimes just like I know I have been harassed for holding hands with a boy. SO its complicated. Anger at injustice is a great way to go, just remember to use that anger well and not just because it is advantageous for agitators.

  17. emberfly

    July 19, 2017 at 8:32 am

    So fucking what? I don’t need his permission.

  18. [deleted]

    July 19, 2017 at 8:32 am


  19. onahotelbed

    July 19, 2017 at 8:32 am

    This doesn’t give you a free pass to be islamophobic.

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